“What is the f – goes?” Bernard Sumner jokes.
After crushing Zoom and WhatsApp, New Order’s founding member made the decision to give Facetime a chance. It materializes, sitting on a sofa with a white wall. Soft and cozy eyes hide their glasses.
Forty five years have passed since “less than 70 years and more than 20”, founded the organization throughout bassist Peter Hook, drummer Stephen Morris and keyboardist Gillian Gilbert. But you should not mention the new order in the same breath as its past total in Joy’s division. The story is too familiar, the organization crosses after a Sex Pistol concert in Manchester.
“Famous, many other wearray people . . . Morrissey there, and the BuzzCocks were Hoigary . . . and they all launched and trained a group,” Ironips Sumner.
And for all those who have already heard the Joy Division, it makes sense. The first album of the organization “Unknown pleasures” is imbued with the meaning of the signing of the guns of “anarchist rebellion, aggression and energy”, of the first song. Sumner describes the concert as a crucial moment in the history of music because, sounded, gave all the “kick in the balls” that he needed.
“Really” F – The status quo “. . . we all had a great time in school and in the uprising and we didn’t like status quo,” says Sumner. “He gave those teachers a kick!
“Punk gave us the excuse we needed,” he adds.
But only a few years after Joy Division venerated the music scene, the organization reached an inoportuna disappearance after the death of the main singer Ian Curtis. And a year after that, the new order gave the impression of Sumner, Hook, Morris and Gilbert to the helm, and one sound absolutely another for them.
The organization began to combine synthesizers with typical instrumentation, creating an unforgettable hypnotic sound: Sopla and Woosh calls listeners to the dance field and pray that they move. Sumner says that it comes from nowhere, without putting a conscious effort in a familiar noise that would describe the next decades.
“Four other people accumulated and that is what we did,” says Sumner. “We had rehearsals, but we didn’t have an intelligent plan, we didn’t give a s, to earn a lot of money, we didn’t give a famous. “
In fact, his artistic procedure has gone to the rehearsals, communicate about what they saw on television last night and spend a potato in the Spuduke oven near the studio.
“Then we were,” we looked to write something? “”, Remember. “Come on,” yes, it’s fine, “then we turn on the amplifiers and see what happened. “
He even tells a story of the first time they painted in New York and met the well -known manufacturer Arthur Baker. The latter used paintings with consultation musicians, and in doing so, to launch a new order in a study while ending.
“He said:” Find some concepts, “Sumner explains. ” We simply couldn’t, because they had put us in the place and said he had done it, and that had never happened before Rayray . . . the trick not to think about that. “
However, even with its original and revolutionary style, the new order had recorded problems in graphics outside the categories of independent and independent choice. In the 80s, they depended on the radio game and did not do much outside the doors of the University Campus in the United States.
On the other hand, teams like Sumner, like the Smiths and Echo & The Bunnymen, ignored what happened in the dominant current, leaving the game of figures in pop music.
“We simply ignore what was happening in the dominant current,” he says. “We don’t like what we heard on the radio, so we did our own radio. “
Of course, when he arrived, he overlooked public radio in general and acquitted the disorders of the organization to obtain antenna time. This has led their undeniable good fortune to fill the hole between generations, parents share records of the organization with their children.
“Good music is smart music, is still floating on the top,” he said. “Buying a new order of orders is an intelligent investment for the rest of your life. “
Sumner says that the organization is now “more effective” than they have ever been and says that it is reduced to some factors, cohesion.
“At first, we used to get a lot and that higher shows,” said Sumner. “We were very good, celebrating how wonderful it was, so the next one would be horrible because we celebrated too much. “
“Our popularity has really increased to decrease, and sometimes decreases, right?” He jokes.
This appointment between generations that grew up listening to the organization and is now too obvious with respect to festivals such as Cruel World, which celebrates post-Punk, New Wave, Goth and Alt-Rock. The event, organized for the first time in 2022, brought back to Iggy Pop, Duran Duran and Morrissey on the main scene.
Now the new order will be at the head of the festival on May 17 along Nick Cave and the bad seeds. It was an unforeseen renewal of the 80s that maintained sufficiently solid assistance to point out because it fits a basic food, like many other Goldenvouize.
“There will have a appetite for this [era] of music, in a different way they would not put it,” jokes Sumner. “It’s soul, it really has a soul. “
As for the next step in terms of new versions, the organization recently had to close the rumors of an album along the way. 10 years have passed since their album acclaimed through criticism, “Music Complete”, gave fans, which naturally need a new project. Sumner says that retention is equivalent to the general motivation to rewrite, some members who wish to do so and others are not “too passionate. “
“I am one of those who do it,” says Sumner. “That’s all I can say, really. “
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